Pr. Matt and Merry chat about what salvation is all about. Why was Jesus’ tomb empty? Why did he appear to his followers? Was it all for eternal life? Or is something else going on here? We look at the Gospel of John to help us understand God’s emphasis on saving and transforming our lives and our world here and now on this wide of eternity. Along the way, we chat about birthdays, the appropriate amount of gifts to get, and the glories of ice cream cake.